OHIO JOE (JOSIP GRGINCIC) OF CLEVELAND QUAIL- #1 BIGGEST SHITBAG SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE HISTORY OF QUAIL BREEDING
This guy is a complete piece of fucking filth. A dirty scumrat who crawled up from the goddamn sewer into the quail business in 2015. I created this goddamn monster by helping him out with everything I know about raising Mearns, Elegant, and Mountain Quail and have kicked myself in the ass for it every day since ! Since then, hundreds and hundreds of people have got ripped off by this shyster. He's a liar, a con man, a weasel, a coward's coward, a wimp, a sissyboy - you name it, if it's bad, then he's it ! The guy hasn't got one decent bone in his entire body ! All bad. He's one poison pisspot. The shit he's pulled on me and about everybody he's ever dealt with is just unbelievable.
This is one piss-poor example of a man. He's actually a husband and a father ! What in the hell kind of a woman would ever want with a little screechy sissy like him ? !! Anybody that's ever heard his voice knows just what I mean. It suits him perfectly though. He sounds like a little kids' TV cartoon character. A loud, screechy, squawky, high-pitched voice like a little bratty young girl would sound like, but even worse. He's got no business being a father. The state of Ohio ought to take those kids and put them in foster care. They'd have a much better chance at turning out to be decent people later in life than by being brought up by that goddamn piece of shit ! His wife can't be too much either to want anything to do with the likes of him !
I just wrote a post very similar to this one last week on my Facebook page. He whined to them and the Facebook snowflake patrol removed it and gave me a day in Facebook jail for harassment and bullying ! I'm not harassing or bullying. I'm just telling the truth. I'm stating the facts. I'm helping people from getting ripped off.
When I first met him in 2015, he found me from somewhere. I didn't even have Facebook then. I didn't even own a computer. He was all gung ho on getting into Mearns Quail. He never had a quail before that, except for a few Coturnix back when he was a kid. He had three pairs of Mearns that he just bought and was practically hysterical that they wouldn't lay. The more I talked to him I could easily see that he wasn't doing anything right. Completely clueless. He asked me if mine were laying. it was in May and they were on fire. I had some really strong stock then with excellent fertility and hatch rates in the high 90s to 100%. He wanted some bad ! I started selling him eggs steadily throughout most of the summer, got him going on how to incubate, hatch, brood, and raise them. I sold him nearly three hundred eggs that summer until I caught him doing some dirty tricks.
I didn't really like the guy right from the start. He was an awfully pushy little prick, and all he cared about were eggs, eggs, eggs. He was calling me at least, and I'm not exaggerating, ten times a day, sometimes more, with that screechy little voice, "Scott, how are you ?" "How many eggs ya got for me today ?", along with more questions picking my brain about things. Back then I sold Mearns eggs for $10 each. See, he's a socipath. All that he cares about is his own personal gain and getting what he wants when he wants it, and will step all over anyone or anything in his way to do it. He doesn't give a shit about anything but his wallet. This is a guy who'd steal out of his grandmother's purse if he thought there was a $5 bill in there. I told him that I'm a fisherman and have to get up at 4:00 in the morning to head down to the boat, so I needed to go to bed at a decent hour. He didn't give a shit. He'd call me at midnight, even 1:00 in the morning ! The guy's done this kind of shit to a lot of people I've talked to. Push, push, push to try to get his way. If someone gives him a good deal he wants a better one. This guy is really something else !
So after I sold him a ton of eggs, I got a call from a woman who also bought eggs from me that week. She was upset because my hens' names were on the eggs. He was buying my eggs for $10 ea., having me ship them to him, repacking them, then sending them out to people who bought them from him on eBay for at least three times the cost.. He was brokering the eggs to finance his business, having carpenters build his little quail jails in his garage where he breeds them under artificial light like a puppy mill operation. So by repacking the eggs, they're handled another time, then put back into the mail for another two to four days. The fertility fizzles out in a lot of them by then. He didn't care. He was making at least $20 profit on each egg. So he called one day for more. I cut it off. I told him we're done and why we're done. He threw a little hissyfit, and ever since then has been out to get me.
I could write a book on what he's pulled on me since then. He's made up a bunch of different aliases, Tim Moris, Dan Morrison, Ivan Gelo, Joe Corn, Shelly Cook to name a few. Every one of them to either slander me or pick my brain on how to raise other quail, and even get birds shipped to him in a roundabout way. One time he posted some shit on Softbills about me, He stalks my Facebook page and even recently had me kicked off of Twitter for reporting me for - ON A BOXING SITE - saying that I'd like to see Manny Pacquaio or Shawn Porter kick Terrence Crawford's ass ! This is the kind of thing that everybody says on there ! This is the sport of boxing ! But the little weasel bitched again and the Twitter snowflakes permanently suspended my account for, get this - WISHING BODILY HARM ON SOMEONE !!! Holy shit !! It's always something with this guy.
So on my Facebook post about him, a friend of mine who bought some dud eggs from him last summer called him a douche in the comments. He is one. He didn't like it so here's what he did... There's a woman, I won't mention her name, who bought birds from him. She's one of the ones who didn't research things first as far as prices or even anything about the birds such as proper cages, and just plain how to take care of them. She means well but isn't too bright and is kind of a scatterbrained dingbat. She really doesn't know whether she's coming or going. Joe's not too swift either. He's a shrewd little bastard though and is still smarter than her. He saw an opportunity to use her as a pawn because he knew she'd fall for it. Joe sent her a PM on Facebook with screenshots, saying that my friend bought birds from her. 5 pairs of Mearns, just a month ago. The screenshots showed Express Mail labels made out to her. She fell for it immediately and got mad because she thought my friend was a two-faced rat, and she immediately posted those screenshots in the comments on my post, then told me about it. I was surprised as could be because I know how much she doesn't like Joe and I thought that never in a million years would buy another thing from him. I enlarged the screenshots. At the same time, my friend spotted it and enlarged them. She was livid ! We both easily spotted that he just made them up. One had the right side of the label blank, and the other was filled in with his handwriting but no employee signature. These were the carbon copy, not the ink top copy that goes with the box. Completely phony. She was too dumb to spot what we both saw instantly.
So I wrote another post on his latest stunt, didn't even mention her name, then she got mad at me. She started to contradict herself about what she bought from him, and what she paid, telling me almost the exact opposite of what she's been bitching about for months. Now she's defending Joe ! Now he didn't charge her $175 for her $25 valley Quail. and now all of a sudden he threw her in four free males - no - one free pair - no - four free males, and now his prices are great all of a sudden, and he throws in free shipping on top of it all !!!😂😂 All of the things she bitched about were no longer true ! She couldn't even keep track of anything she was saying. The first person out of a SHITLOAD of people over the last six years who I've ever heard say anything good about the little bastard. He played her like a fiddle. Now she made two new enemies, got kicked out of our Mearns group, and I blocked her. I have no use for troublemakers and imbeciles like that.
Anyway, look at the website of his and it's all a lie. Not only every paragraph, or every sentence, but every word is a goddamn lie ! Huge gyp prices on common $25 a pair birds which are all brokered. All the bullshit about being in this business for twenty years, when it's only been six as of writing this post. The bullshit about his love of the birds and how he'll help all of his customers with everything they need to know to give proper care to them. This clown told me at least five times over the years, "Fuck the people !" "I'm not helpin anybody !" "You're stupid to do that !" "You're only creating competition !"
Last year when he slandered me on Softbills, I had it ! I sent him an email and told him to watch his back because I was taking a 3-day trip out there to pound the piss outta him. Within ten minutes the Willoughby, Ohio Police Department called me and told me that if I drive out there, they'll have my cops here take my driver's license away !😂 They told me not to contact the little fairy anymore. Then he sent me a little sissy email saying, "Do not contact me anymore !" I responded by telling him to cut the shit then. BAM - the little pink pussy sent that to the asshole cops out there and they called again.😂
So Josip, I know you'll see this. Remember boy - A LOT of people hate you. Your days in this business are numbered. You've said that there's a sucker born every second and you'll sell out no matter what. Eventually, you'll run out of suckers. All the old-time breeders have no use for you and you've made a lot of enemies out of the new crop. People spread the word. I don't even have to mention your name and I hear nothing but negative about you. Then I spread the word about you too. I know a lot of people. I have been at this for over twenty years. Your name is mud out there and we'll continue to educate the public about what a shitbag you are.
I could still go on. There's plenty more that I haven't even mentioned. Just remember to avoid this guy !!
BRENDA "HAIR" STINEBAUGH - THE MAD MOUNTAIN QUAIL LADY
I've been back and forth whether to write a story about this bitch and just decided what the hell,I'll go for it. She's a quail breeder,more like a "quail keeper" from WallaWalla,Washington. She used to be a friend of mine but she was always kind of a moody,uptight person and has a little problem with the truth sometimes. That kind of bothered me and was always in the back of my head. A for instance would be when she met new people in the hobby or business one of the first things she told them was that she had Ocellated Quail. No one has those in this country and I don't think anyone ever has or will. What a way to make a first impression huh ? She got to be known as a shit stirrer after a while by some folks.
I got to know her maybe four years ago. I think she called or messaged me about Mountain Quail. We got to shooting the shit and our one common bond was our mutual hatred of The Three Golden Boys at the time,now four adding Matt Pitchford to the pack last year. She had a huge flock of Mountain Quail and a lot of questions about everything. Some she listened to my answers to, and some she didn't. I really shared a lot of knowledge with her over those years on everything from egg to chick,to adult. I gave every tip that I could on brooding,brooders,pen building,you name it... . She always seemed appreciative but didn't always follow instructions and failed quite often. A friend of mine who's a well known good old time breeder of around fifty years or so,sold her birds a bunch of times. It seemed nearly everything that he sold her died. This is a guy who sends perfect birds. I've traded back and forth with him for years and never had any problems. He sent her replacement birds a few times. She kept losing Mearns and Bensons,and what she didn't kill seemed to stay sick forever. Light in weight,humped up,ruffled feathers,lethargic... . I've sent her birds and they either died or didn't act right after she got them.
I've tried to spoon feed her,helping her build things like brooders and nest boxes and they never really came out too good. She spends big bucks on materials and has carpenters build her Mountain Quail enclosed buildings and also spends a lot of money on veterinarians for treating sick birds and doing necropsies each time one dies. She's a full time nurse with a good salary and the rest of her free time goes into her maybe hundred bird flock of Mountains. She claims to have never made a profit at this and I can see why. She sells eggs on ebay but her expenses far outweigh her income. She doesn't raise a whole lot so she doesn't send out a whole lot of birds.
We used to talk about the assholes in the business and their gyp prices. Not long before I had enough of her I saw her prices. As high as theirs !! Hypocrite. She seemed to change around a year ago when she talked to a woman also in Washington by the name of Brit Lund. Lund told her that I'm a mean guy with anger issues and was afraid of me. She told Brenda not to have anything to do with me because it makes her look bad where I'm known as the guy to stay away from. She was never the same since. She was friends with a guy that I hate with a passion,that Dan Turpin motherfucker from Indiana. He's got that page on Facebook called something like Critters Crossing 219.
One day I got into it on Facebook with the prick, It went on for a while and the halfwit was really getting wise,making things up,telling lies,calling names.... . She was right there watching the whole thing and never stood up for me once ! I noticed her all over his posts like she used to be on mine until that Lund bitch scared her off. One time she put a post on her page and this one must be way over my head and below my feet because I still don't know what in the hell they were talking about. It was when the mass hysteria of this coronavirus started in and people all over were hoarding toilet paper. Her post was about wiping her ass on $300 rabbits ! Like I said,I don't get it but the others sure loved it. Turpin and a few other assholes chimed right in with their suggestions of how to do it. Turpin said he could wipe his ass on the rabbit's back,then underneath on its belly. They were all loving that one and I guess he won the award of being the most efficient at it. I was disgusted. I commented to him,"Hey asshole !" She deleted it. I had it with her and washed my hands of her for good. I unfriended her on Facebook and she blocked me.
So now I'm hearing and seeing things about her from other people. She's got many personalities. She can be really charming,then be a snotty wiseass bitch. You never know what you're going to get with her. These screenshots show what I mean. Look at her attitude with a friend of mine (who blocked her ID because she knew I'd probably write a post😂). Kinda snotty and prickish don't you think ? She's the one with the picture of the pair of Mearns Quail. My friend is the one with the questions and comments in the blue boxes.
Another thing that makes me wonder is that she said there that her original Mearns stock came from Portland,Oregon,and Mesa,Arizona. Hmmm.... Could be but I don't know of any breeders from there and I know mostly everyone who has them. The last I knew she had one remaining surviving pair from me,and another bird in a separate pen and all they did was pace back and forth all day long. Says her fertility is excellent !😂 How come she doesn't hatch them and sell the adults for huge Ohio Joe prices then ? ! It's hard to believe anything that someone says when they're a fibber. Hard to know whether she's telling the truth or not. I think she's an Ohio Joe wannabe. Anyway,another prick added to my growing shit list ! She oughta just hang this shit up and get a new hobby.
Here we go again. There are four or five groups on Facebook with this name. This particular one has a picture of two Silkie chickens as it's group cover photo. This group is just as miserable as the others like it.
Facebook is strange as far as how things work or don't work. In my case they don't work like they should. I clicked off of all of those groups quite a while back,but that one along with two quail "dummy sites",as I refer them to,still show notifications in my news feed even with me clicking."leave group" and "unfollow group". Most of the time I don't even look when a notification appears because it's either maddening or idiotic,or both.
A few days ago I did happen to check one out and it was about a well known fruitcake in the business,or hobby to her,by the name of Shanna Peters Cook. Pretty much everybody out there has dealt with her at one time or another. This was yet another review of her being a "Bad Egg". People were talking about their experiences with her. I told about mine. Anyway,everybody agreed with me except for always that one snowflake,but she was overruled by the majority.
So I thought it would be a good time to throw a post up. I wrote something like,"If you want to find out about who some more nuts are,check out my website under the Stories category. I posted the link to it. I got some likes and laughs not long afterward,but a while later I got a comment from an Amy Duggin. This chick is the queen of snowflakes but can also be a huge snotty prick. She bitched me out on there,almost,or maybe even in tears from reading some of the stories of my 100% TRUE experiences with these filthy scumbags. She said that I'm a horrible writer and use terrible grammar and punctuation. She did seem quite articulate herself,with a really sophisticated vocabulary like you'd picture an author,a college professor,an avid reader,or just some shitbag lawyer. She said that I ramble on and on but don't get anywhere. For someone so intelligent,you'd think that she'd be plenty capable of understanding my writing. About everybody else does.
She was so upset she said that she couldn't read the parts in some of the posts about how I explained how I'd like to beat the shit out of certain scums. It was too harsh for her. So I told her to toughen up and grow a set of balls,and called her a snowflake. Then she started to whine and cry some more,trying to tell me how to conduct myself in life and all kinds of horseshit like that. I went at her for the last time and told her that maybe that's how things work in her little LaLa Land full of unicorns,bunnies,and rainbows,but in the real world people get their asses kicked for pulling the kind of shit that these assholes have on me and they deserve a good old fashioned ass whoopin. In the meantime I called her a bitch and to mind her own business. She didn't come back for more.
But the pot started to simmer. Another bitch came on and started wising off to me. I don't take that kind of nonsense so I gave it right back, Then another,and another ! Before you know it I had around fifty chicks,one big faggot,and a mouthy redneck punk all over my ass ! They were wising off,telling jokes,making fun,telling me how to behave and act. Not a single one made a bit of sense.I had an answer for as many as I could keep up the typing for. It does NO good with this crowd. They are all one. It's a clique,but even more like a goddamn cult !
There was a girl who said that she's 33 and can kick my ass because she was in the service in combat twice,and has a black belt in karate.😂. Of course I told her that she's insane. There's not a woman on this planet that could take me. Any kind of punch or kick that she could throw I'd see coming a mile away. I'd let her hit me on purpose so I could just smile. She wouldn't have the power to knock the cap off my head. Then this asshole redneck,well I guess more of a sophisticated redneck you could say,started in wising off,saying how easy it would be for him to kick my ass. I say a "sophisticated redneck" because in the picture of them all,they had a row of shiny new trucks and were dressed like students,but still all had bottles of Bud Light and shit eatin' smirks on their faces. These are the kind of lowlifes that I'd like to walk down the line of them,smashing their faces all to pieces,breaking their noses,eye sockets,jaws.knocking their teeth down their throats.... . Nothing but a bunch of twenty something year old punks that deserve a bad beating. Anybody who doesn't get this isn't a regular guy. Where I come from that's how it's done. These people must all have lived sheltered little lives. If you go to school,live out in the country,or in the rough part of town,this is how we take care of things.
So yeah,they schooled up on me like sharks in a matter of a few minutes and then cried to administrator and was kicked off. Finally !! I've been wanting off for a couple years at least !😂 But later in the day I got an e mail from a really ignorant piece of white trash by the name of Shelly Cook,who's the #1 flunky of Queen Amy. She was all fired up,mad dog mean,and told me that I'm finished in this business !!!!! I'm batshit crazy and everybody knows it !!!!! I'm an ugly old man and a pervert !!!!! Then she told me to find Jesus but right after that she had a couple of screenshots of me with my rabbit and she drew pictures of cocks in my mouth ! Really religious herself,huh ? We went back and forth. I shouldn't even waste my breath on this simpleton but she put on three more screenshots of some of the assholes from that group talking to each other. This little cowardly lying worm of a young man by the name of Arley Edwards who said in his text that he's bought from me on several occasions but will NEVER again ! Then he said they should report me to here and there..... . I've never sold that guy anything. I've never even heard of him ! I sent him a message on messenger asking him why he lies like that. No reply of course. Then of course little snowflake Amy,saying I should be reported and that same kind of shit. Then some fuckin bitch by the name of Elizabeth Barr,and another one called Mellissa Block had things to add. That was all I saw from those screenshots but I'm sure there's one hell of a lot more where that came from. These bitches are on a witch hunt for anything that they can find on me. They scrolled MILES back through my Facebook timeline only to find a few comments that I made on a tits and ass group. Yes. Guys like that stuff.👍😀 So now I'm a pervert too !😂😂 I think about every guy that I know checks that stuff out and / or belongs to one or more of those groups. They're even better on Twitter !😀
So every time I came in the house from outside working I checked my e mails. There she was again. Same old thing - I'm finished in this business - ruined !!!!! Everybody out there knows me and that I'm batshit crazy !!!!..... same old stuff over and over. Each time I'd play with her,and each time she had less and less to say. I embarrassed her. I picked her apart. I dissected her. Now she knows that she's mildly retarded and her spelling and grammar is that of a really young kid. She actually told me that I'm a newbie at raising quail !😂 She spelled it,"newb". She said that she's now reporting me for threatening and sexual harassment. I guess that's because I called her "Sugartits". I thanked her for all of the publicity because I just got a few more likes and followers and another three pair of Mearns spoken for. Queen Amy must be really disappointed in her little flunky.😀
TWO NEW ASSHOLES TO ADD TO MY GROWING SHIT LIST The first one's name is Britt Lund,a snowflake girl from Washington state who apparently tells people not to buy from me because I have "anger issues". I never had any bad dealings or even words with her. She reads my posts about the well known shysters in the business,along with a few other shitbags and halfwits. I guess it hurts her little super sensitive feelings of how I expose and bash these well known scums. I say well known.They are fairly well known but still not by enough people. I get plenty of gutless folks come crying to me after getting stung for big bucks by them,some even after I warned to steer clear. They don't have the balls to write a post like I do. If a lot more people had a full set of balls,they'd expose them on their pages and in various groups,and they'd all be out of business by now. So,little Britt the Twit,because of wusses like you there are people getting screwed royally all over this country on eggs and birds,and even across the pond on hatching eggs that these guys know damn well won't be any good by the time they get there. A lot of people are angry. I'm the voice for them all. Now go have a good cry !😂
So that was little Britt the Twit,the next one we'll call Dan the Man. He's from Indiana and has a Facebook page called Critters' Crossing or something along that line. It's a hobby farm. He has quite a variety of animals and birds and it is actually a really nice place.
I got to know him just a few years ago,seeing I've only had that goddamn Facebook since 2016. I briefly talked with him maybe two or three times over that period. He seemed like a pretty good guy. One time he messaged me about sending some good money to Ohio for some Mearns eggs and never received them. He didn't remember for sure who the guy was and so that piece of filth from Cleveland Quail came to mind,but then as we got talking a bit,he said the guy was from Xenia,Ohio,not Cleveland. I told him right then and there that it was Norman Bradshaw who pulled that on him.Norman was a fly by nighter,in and out of the business in three years' time,while screwing half the people that he dealt with. Filthy eggs,duds,or never sending any at all after taking peoples' money. He was an Ebay hustler.
Dan said he doesn't take that kind of shit and was going after the guy to get his money from him,or Ebay,or whoever it was,I don't remember all the little details. I do remember some months later that talking to him again,I asked him if he ever got the guy. He said no. I talked to him on one of my posts since then about shooting dogs that come on our property after our critters. That was almost a year ago.
Then here's the real ass kicker. He doesn't seem to remember this but he made me mad one time. Someone,somewhere put up a post of a really grainy,blurry picture of three or four quail in the distance and asked which type they were. A friend of mine,and another man right away said that they were Valley Quail. I took a quick look and said the same thing. Someone else got on and said that they looked like some kind of hybrid. So I looked really close. I saw on one,a white throat,and there looked to be wider white facial stripes than on a Valley. So I said that it may be possible that they're a Bobwhite / Valley cross.. Big Dan jumped right on to correct me and tell ME what a Valley Quail looks like. He said they have white stripes on the face ! Well no fuckin shit,asshole ! As if I don't know what a Valley Quail looks like !! I've only had a few hundred or better. Imagine talking to ME like that ? ! I said to myself right there,"Man,what a dick !!". I didn't have any use for him after that. I unfriended him on Facebook right there in an instant.
So last October I believe it was,a guy that I've spoken to before put a post up on one of the more sophisticated Facebook groups,called,Quail,Partridge,Grouse,and Francolin Breeders,or something along that line. This isn't one of the dummy sites,but one of the better groups with some of the better breeders on there,a lot of them real pompous pricks.Real snot nosed assholes that in person any regular guy would like to nail in the solar plexus hard and knock the wind out of them so bad that they don't get up for an hour. There are a lot of dummies on there too.
So the guy who wrote the post wrote it to complain about some Mearns hatching eggs that he overpaid for,of course,from Ohio Joe. I think there were two fertile ones out of ten or twelve eggs,both died along the way. He showed a picture of one of the dead developing chicks. It had a badly crossed bill. He went on to say something about the eggs were from inbred stock....etc....,which is true,but a few of those assholes actually said it was in the incubation so it was probably his own fault. I stuck up for the guy along with a few others who said he's a crook and sells a lot of crippled shit. Quite a few different comments from a bunch of people on that post.
So Big Man Dan hops on that post saying something about it. I just replied with,"Sounds like a Norman Bradshaw move",a subtle reminder that it wasn't Ohio Joe that stung him. No reply - until two months later,I get a,"What ???" from him,and then I don't remember exactly who said what to who,but it sounded to me like he was confused as to what I was talking about,some other guy jumped in,then Big Man's son came on and said,"So everybody's a liar ?". I said that I sure as hell aren't lying. That was the last comment on the post.I called him an old fuddydud in a post that I wrote on my Facebook page later on. I never mentioned his name though. He jumped on my post asking why I called him that. He said he agreed with me 100 percent and was trying to back me up,and his son was too. It sure didn't look like that to me !! I took it as though he was calling me a liar.
So shit heated up and I reminded him of the time that he told me what a Valley Quail looks like. Of course he said he never did that and I have the wrong guy,then gave me the middle finger emoji. That's when I could feel that wave of heat rush from my feet all through my body,all the way to my head ! White hot !! If that old bastard was standing in front of me he'd be on his ass before he even saw me make a fist !
Then we started to go back and forth. That's when I,and maybe 1000 followers,if they have any common sense,saw how goddamn ignorant he is.He was calling me things like,little man,pip squeak,egomaniac,narcissist,junior,little boy..... . Then he said my brains are scrambled from bouncing around in the waves for all of the years lobstering. He called me a backwoods hick,a hillbilly,a mama's boy,ugly,with a face that only a mother could love.( If you saw this asshole's picture you'd see an old ugly gray fuck with a shit eating smirk always on his face,a little trimmed landing strip mustache,and what look to be dentures ) He kept calling me lonely and pathetic. Where the fuck did he come up with that ? !! He then said that I was complaining that none of the girls on the dating sites want anything to do with me !. I never said such a thing. I made a comment on Facebook that how dating sites are a joke because they show pictures of all hot models,but in reality,they're all full of fat,ugly chicks with other men's kids,and covered in tattoos.
Yeah,he conjured up a lot of lies. Another was a good one !😂 He said that all the people that I've written about are good people and I'm the one that lies about them !!! WOW !!!! Okay Big Man,yeah,The Four Golden Boys are quality,first class,honest guys !!😂 He said that I'm the liar and I'm full of hate,with a pathetic,unhappy life ! (It's true about hating the shitbags that I write about 😀),but other than that I'm pretty damn contented. Even better than that one was saying that I only think that I'm in shape,but I'm just lying to myself,and only really in "backwoods shape" !😂 He said I've got only little boy muscles and that I should get some real muscles by feeding real animals !!😂😂 That must be the most stupid one of them all !!!
Everything was ."backwoods hick" all through the comments. Jesus,I have woods on my property.I assume he does too. We have farms,moron ! We don't live in the city !!! And another thing,for a "backwoods hick",at least I can use at least some proper grammar,spelling,and punctuation ! You ought to see his !😂
So yeah everybody - Dan Turpin from Indiana,a true piece of shit who's goddamn lucky that he doesn't live around here ! Oh yeah,that too ! He kept calling me a keyboard warrior !! I'm the one who offered him big bucks to put his money where his mouth is. I offered him all expenses to get here and a $10,000 bet that he wouldn't last 30 seconds with me. He's a little punk. I'd whip fifty Dan Turpins in the primes of their lives. And of course,he changed the subject to that one and just wised off like a little high school punk some more.😂 Goddamn maggot.
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Well here's another post with me bashing someone !
This person does it a lot more than I do but only for the wrong reasons. I'll bet a lot of you on Facebook are all too familiar with this piece of white trash who seems to be on there almost 24 / 7,on every kind of bird page there is,whether it be quail,pheasants,partridge,ducks,chickens..... .
She trolls all of what I call "The Dummy Sites" all day long,and contacts a lot of people,always wanting this,and wanting that,but almost never has any money to buy it.
Her name is Nichole Brashears. Ring a bell ?😀
It seems like she's been at this shit for at least five years. She pesters the hell out of everybody who sells hatching eggs and birds. She's also a regular on the four Facebook Good Egg,Bad Egg groups,slamming the hell out of people if things don't go her way. This is one of the types who'll beg for a discount from a backyard slum farm breeder,then when all six of her eggs don't hatch,she'll drag the person's name through the mud.
She's not only pestered me for a few years,but also bothered the hell of some breeder friends of mine. She wants,wants,and wants. She'll message and call the person over and over to hold things for her on a layaway or even a goddamn payment plan ! Then when the time comes around to ship the birds she either never gets back to the person or asks for a discount.
For instance,last year I raised a lot of Benson Quail. There was a shortage of them in this country and the orders were piling up fast. I had around a hundred birds. All spring and summer she either called or messaged me about them. When it was time to ship,she took a while to respond. I was sending out a lot of them by that point and had no trouble selling the rest. She actually had the nerve to call me on the phone and ask me if I could do better on my price just because her husband lost his job !! No pride,no shame. Jesus I'd NEVER ask someone something so ridiculous ! I said no. Anybody normal should be embarrassed to death to ask someone that.
This year it was Mearns. Well by now I couldn't take her serious at all,so everything was taken with a grain of salt. She asked me about them all year long. I didn't hear from her in quite a while. I didn't end up with a super year for Mearns and what I raised was all spoken for by serious customers only,pretty much all breeder friends of mine.
So last week I got a message from her on Facebook saying something along the line of,"Okay,I have the money for that pair of Mearns you said you have for me !". I got mad and blocked her. right away. Instantly my phone started ringing. I let the answering machine get it. She'd just hang up and call again . The phone must have rang close to fifty times before she finally left a message. Then she went right back to calling some more. The only reason I didn't want to take the call is because of my temper. Any normal person would take the hint after maybe a couple tries ! It got to the point where I had to unplug the phone for the night. Persistent little bitch ! Never called back the next day, What a relief !
So with me blocking her,I couldn't see anything of hers on Facebook,not that I look at any of the dummy sites anymore,but a friend told me that she gave a great review to "Ohio Joe",the biggest crook in the quail business,hands down,for his wonderful pair of "Guaranteed Unrelated" breeders !😂😂 This is the guy whose birds are so badly inbred that he sells a lot of cripples and dud eggs to suckers for way over the going price. He has the website called Clevelandquail. Total piece of shit. You can scroll back and read my post on him. I think it may be the first one on here.
Anyway,my friend told her that she just bought a bunch of shit from a crook. She argued with her and says he's just great !😱 Imagine knocking everybody else after she's the one causing the problems,yet praising the biggest shitbag there is ? !
So for all of you people who haven't had a taste of this retard,take my advice and run if she ever contacts you !
I pretty much have my mind made up. Weighing all the good and the bad,I've decided to unload a lot of birds and pretty much make it an enjoyable hobby again
I've written on the subject before about the new generation of Facebook bird "breeders",most just bird keepers,and basically how most have ruined the hobby and ruined the business.
Sure there's plenty of market for everything that I raise,but I'll leave it to the Four Golden Boys from now on. They all claim to be so much better than I am,so for those of you who haven't dealt with them I'll let you find out for yourself.
#1 is Ohio Joe who has the website called clevelandquail.com . The biggest liar and piece of shit that I've ever met in this business. A true total bag of fuckin shit through and through. A filthy con man with shyster prices. The word "liar" is just not strong enough to describe this asshole. This son of a whore doesn't have one decent bone in his entire body. He's poison through and through. You'll see on my website that I wrote a post about him quite a while back. Well since then he's pulled one hell of a lot more on me under different aliases,the latest,"Joe Corn",and before that,"Ivan Gelo". The fucker spreads lies all over Christ's creation about me,one being that my low prices reflect the inferior quality of my birds. The prick got all of his stock from me !!!
If you look at his website,it's all lies. Not every paragraph,not every sentence,but every goddamn word is a fuckin lie ! Things like he's been doing this for twenty years...etc.... . The first quail he ever had was in 2015. He was completely clueless on how to raise them. I helped him get started,sold him around 300 Mearns eggs that summer. He hatched and raised a shitload,and brokered the rest of my eggs on Ebay for big bucks without telling me. I had to find out by a woman calling me,mad at me because the names of the hens on my eggs matched his. She had it the other way around. I wasn't the broker. It was him. That's when I washed my hands of him.
So if you keep reading the "About Me" section on his site,another lie is that he'll be glad to give his customers recommendations on products for the birds,and advice on them because of how much he cares about his customers,and his love for the birds. This is the same asshole who's said to me probably five or six times over the last few years,"Fuck the people ! I ain't helping anybody. You're stupid to do it. You're only creating competition." And that's just how he is when people call him on the phone ,e mail,or text him. Very brief.One word answers,then basically,"Gimme your money,I'll send you the birds,bye."
More lies are the pictures he shows. Very deceiving. For the past three years he has a picture of a hand with a Mearns Quail in it. He NEVER shows videos or tours of his place. He shows a GQF automatic turner full of Bobwhite eggs to fool people into believing they're Mearns and that he has a huge breeder flock that can crank out settings of 120 at a time. The guy operates out of a garage in a little suburban residential neighborhood with his Mearns and Mountains artificially lit in his garage in little cubicles,basically quail jails. It's basically a puppy mill for quail. He had a post someone showed me on a whole bunch of the Facebook "dummy groups" of him saying how all his birds are "on fire" laying like crazy and he's hatching a shitload of birds. A friend of mine asked him for a picture of the brooders with all the chicks. He showed a handful of eggs and one Benson chick in his other hand. Deceiving,but like I said,there's a sucker born every second,and he's the bottom feeder who preys on them People are so easily fooled. What gets me even still is how in the hell he's not out of business though. I've heard nothing but negative things about him from a ton of people. People actually hate the guy as much as I do but other bird people aren't like me. They don't have the balls to spread the word,therefore people are still being burned every day by this con man.
Number two on my shit list is a tie between Keith Zastrow of "Keith's Quail" ( along with his partner in crime over the four years that they've had a few quail,Matt Pitchford from Louisiana. ),then number three, Derek Wagner from Ellenton Florida.
I'll start with "Bonnie and Clyde",Keith and his right hand man,Matt. For a few years I thought that Matt was actually a pretty good guy but little by little I could see that he's really just fishing for Keith every time he'd e mail me. A few friends of mine always said to me that they don't like how he plays both sides and are glad that they never had anything to do with him and by helping out a crook,just makes him one too. I knew where they were coming from but I didn't listen because every time I talked to him he'd be disgusted with Keith for different reasons,such as his business practices,and also how he's the most impatient guy he's ever met,just like I found out right away. He was always disgusted with him about how he always calls him for advice,then when he'd give him some,he'd argue with him and question the hell out of him,the exact same things he did to me.
Every now and then I'd ask Matt why the hell he has anything to do with him and tell him about all of the shit he's pulled on people,which I hear on a monthly basis from folks all over. Matt would always respond with something along the line of he feels sorry for him and that he was probably picked on in school and his parents made him join the military to try to make a man out of him. Then he'd go on to say that Keith's walking a fine line with him and one false move he's going to cut him off for good. We'd actually make fun of him a lot. He told me how pussy whipped Keith is by his wife. She absolutely hates his hobby and gets mad when he spends $20 on a bag of grain. She wears the pants in the family and won't let him build a grow out pen,which is why he advertises started Mountain Quail at five weeks old,right out of the brooder for big bucks,shipped in the July heat. Then when the naive people who buy them have them all show up dead,or die soon after,he blames it all on the customer and won't make good. Check it out everybody who's never seen it,"Keith's Quail" on Facebook. Kind of Mickey Mouse but idiots suck it right up. He's been at it since 2016,failed miserably the first year with me holding his hand every step of the way,then the next year has that page offering."Professional Advice From A Licensed Breeder","Desert Storm Vet"," College Degree.".
Anyway I've been going back and forth with the guy ever since. One day he's calling me every name in the book,and a week later,asking me to ship him some lobsters,or information on my pet rabbits. He's a mental case,yet a ton of Mickey Mouse naive amateurs think that he's the bomb. He has twice the Facebook followers than I do. All from another Mickey Mouse setup with the same old videos of his few Mearns in Ohio Joe like quail jails in his garage. My outfit puts his to shame a thousand times over but dummies fall for that bullshit every time. Are people blind ? ! Can't they take one look at some of the farm tours,posts,and pictures on my page,then take one look at his,then laugh their asses off ? Nope. They go for a con man instead. Absolutely disgusting.
So anyway about his right hand man,Pitchford. He has a Instagram site called Quail Enthusiasts with around a hundred followers,mostly small scale hobby folks with a few Pharaohs or Buttons who think he's another quail god too. Anyway I had that in the back of my head for quite some time about him playing me. One day last April,after not hearing from him for two or three weeks,I got an e mail from him that said,"Man you must be going nuts with no Mountain eggs by now ?" Well how did he know that ? He was just fishing for his buddy. Another time he told a man that I know that Keith's a pretty good guy but just misunderstood by the old time breeders. Always defending the guy and sticking up for him. He even wrote Keith's instruction sheet that he puts in with the hatching eggs that he sends out for him. All of this "Professional Advice",pretty much comes from Matt.. He even told Keith one time that I don't like competition. This was a few years ago. I never even thought about it that way. I never even thought of it as competition then. And as of now,I guess I could call it competition but I don't like what's out there for this new competition. These scums.
He and Keith are in bed together in this shit and by then I knew it I wrote a post about it not that long ago on my Facebook page. Immediately I got an e mail from him. He was mad as hell. He said It's pathetic that I put that video of me working out on the heavybag and speedbag a couple years ago. He says he "knocks out pansies like me out with one punch"😂😂😂😂 !!! I e mailed him back. We got into it. I told him he's a two faced rat and Keith's asswiper flunky. He says I should get professional help like a friend of his did so I can function in mainstream society !! Jesus I get along with just about everybody except a bunch of shitbag bird people !!!
As far as kicking my ass goes,I'd bet my house and my farm on it that he'd quit or get knocked out cold within thirty seconds. A old,soft,gray haired,paunchy,50 something year old guy who's a photographer and a store clerk !!!😂😂 Going up against a lobster fisherman and a boxer😂 !! He's the one who needs the crazy pills !!! Holy shit. He's a little fuckin sissy. I saw the pictures on his site of him wearing his little shorts and sandals😂😂😂 !!! At best he was a high school football player or on the wrestling team forty years ago !!😂😂 Imagine him trying to step in and grab me. He'd run right into a missile attack. He doesn't know how to punch of course. He'd try to come in straight forward,squared up and telegraph a wide barnyard swing or two,which I'd see coming a mile away. I'd toy with the old punk. I'd let him do it a few times while I circle to the left and right,making him miss by a mile. By then he'd be so winded,he'd keel over on his own !!😂😂😂 Another keyboard warrior from 1500 miles away. He'd shit his duds if I ever stepped toward him in person. Man would I love to get the chance to tear his fuckin two faced head off ! He also said if I ever mention his name that he'll," Ruin Me In This Business" !!😂😂😂😂
As far as Wagner goes,if you haven't already,read my post on here about him,. A complete piece of fuckin filth to the max !!! Oh and go back to the post called,"The Pros And Cons Of Selling Hatching Eggs". The one I described as the nut from Michigan is Keith,and believe me,that was just the tip of the iceberg.That was written a few years ago.
So those are The Four Golden Boys and there are many more crawling up out of the sewer all the time now. Facebookers and E bayers. And most of the people on those Good Egg,Bad Egg sites are trash too,especially the one who runs one of them,Kari Peterson,a kunt with a kapital K !!!😂😂
The good old hobbiests are the last of a dying breed.. I'm going to keep a few of my favorite species from now on and just trade back and forth with them,sell a few eggs just to pay for my expenses,only to people who are capable of hatching,understand that the Post Office can ruin them and it's not my fault,and expect free replacements. Also won't sell to the kind of person who expects twelve chicks out of twelve eggs and badmouths people all over the Good Egg,Bad Egg sites if they don't get that.
Anyway,it's a good decision by me. I can't take it anymore. Yes the scums have won out !😂😂😂 They rid me from the business !!😂😂😂 Perfectly fine with me. I'll like it better being able to enjoy it again. And I don't need to do it. I have a business,own everything,and have some real money in the bank. I'm set and it's a good feeling.😀👍
Available this fall - AFRICAN HARLEQUIN QUAIL from some of my original stock.
I was the first to import these in the mid 2000's. Nobody had any before that since the early 90's. I flooded the market then so they became quite common. Everyone in the country had some of the offspring from my original 7 pair and so over the years have inbred them right to death. I ended up getting a few new eggs a while later and hatched some new blood. I made up a bunch of unrelated quads,trios,and pairs but then gave my stock to my friend,Garrie Landry in Louisiana. He's raised a good bunch and is selling some adults. He offered some to me. We see that they're now going for around $40 to $50 a pair. He has no trouble getting that,so I decided to take him up on that and get back to mass producing the little suckers. Neat little birds. Really easy to raise. Still not super common. Great layers and the ebay egg price that they bring is ridiculous.. Tempting but I don't think I'll bother with ebay and eggs but should have a decent bunch of breeders for sale this fall.
These birds mature in about 10 weeks if I remember right. Here's a picture of some of my originals with a new male from different blood. These are a coturnix species. They're larger than a Button Quail but smaller than a Pharaoh. The males have a loud high pitched chirping call.
Derek Wagner's always asking me to show some proof over and over of the shit he pulls on me. See what he put on Softbills for people to see ?
I'm Scott O'Brien, proprietor of Mainely Quail. I've been raising quail for 20+ years and have lots of stories. I tell it like it is, and don't hold back.